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yotony
2006-07-12 14:29:10 UTC
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Are you a social gin rummy player or a budding gin rummy professional?
Both face-to-face land-based and internet (online) gin-rummy
tournaments offer cash prizes to those skillful enough to win them!

gin rummy is a great social card game that first appeared in the US at
the beginning of the 1900s. gin rummy (or rummy, knock rummy) is now
well known throughout the world but it is still especially popular in
the United States.

Some credit for the game is given to Elwood Baker (also a Bridge tutor)
who later achieved much posthumous fame as a victim of an un explained
murder case (could it have been an irate card partner?). The best thing
that Elwood Baker invented to make gin what it is now, is to refine the
scoring system, making gin rummy much more interesting to play for
money.

Since 1930s, Gin Rummy has firmly entrenched in popular American
culture when it became a game of popular Broadway and Hollywood stars
and was featured in multiple movies. According to a 1996 survey by the
U.S. Playing Card Co. of Cincinnati, nearly 27 million played Gin Rummy
socially -- for money or otherwise. Gin Rummy is a fairly fast game
that is very easy to learn and play. Gin Rummy is also a deceptively
simple game that may give a false impression that any player can master
it easily.

Although gin rummy is a simple game to learn and start playing, it's
quite a difficult game to master and play consistently well. Almost
every gin player knows some simple game basics like getting rid of
unmatched high cards and not giving an opponent two cards of the same
rank or suit, etc. Knowing just the basics in rummy, though, is hardly
sufficient to play the game competitively.

In 1995, Bill Ingram, John Hainline, Jeff Mervis and a pool player from
Florida split a $160,000 prize in 85-player Las Vegas International Gin
Rummy Tournament of Champions held at the Maxim, leaving each of the
four with a $40,000 cash prize. The top four players, then, played for
a tournament trophy and Bill Ingram, the real estate broker from Texas
and a great gin rummy player, had won and was declared a tournament
winner.

Annual land-based gin rummy tournaments with big cash prizes are now
held in Las Vegas Riviera Hotel. This year, it is expected that 300-400
of the world's finest gin rummy players will compete for the title.
Registration and more information is available at
www.ginrummytournaments.com.

Ken Chase Ken Chase, the 2005 Gin Rummy Champion, also frequently
plays Gin Rummy online at www.gamecolony.com (gamecolony.com is often
referred to as GinColony.com).

Another very frequent Gin Rummy player at gamecolony.com is Glenn Abney
-- a longtime legend who is widely known as Mr. Gin. "I've been
involved in the biggest, most prestigious gin rummy events for the past
four decades," says Glenn Abney. Abney says that he learned to play gin
rummy from his mother, who, he claims, left a poker game to give birth
to him. At one time, Glenn Abney (a towering man of enormous size and
weight) was regarded as gin rummy's most fearsome player. Abney says
that he lost some of his competitive edge when he went on a
controversial diet that used an unapproved supplement. After the diet,
Abney says: "My long-term memory is pretty much shot". In online gin at
GameColony.com, however, Glenn Abney is still a challenge to contend
with.

John Hainline Another occasional online gin player at gamecolony.com
is a world famous gin rummy player John Hainline, a president of Gin
Rummy Association, who won more than 20 gin rummy tournaments. John
Hainline is widely considered to be one of the two or three best
players on the planet.

John Hainline was one of the very few players who had a positive score
against another gin rummy legend -- Stu Ungar, the man with
photographic memory who was long considered to be the greatest gin
rummy player in the world. Stu Ungar also won the World Series of Poker
three times. Ungar, who is more known for his poker accomplishments,
considered himself a better gin rummy player, once stating, "Some day,
I suppose it's possible for someone to be a better No Limit Hold'em
player than me. I doubt it, but it could happen. But, I swear to you, I
don't see how anyone could ever play gin better than me." Stu Ungar was
found dead in November, 1998 in a cheap Las Vegas motel. The players
and Ungar's associates believed at the time that Stu Ungar was the
victim of drug abuse.

In his 2006 interview with Inside Edge magazine, John Hainline, who
loves poker, said that poker can't compare with the challenge of Gin.
"Gin game depends far less on luck than poker does", says Hainline:
"There are a lot of poker players who are also Gin players. They go
back and forth between two games and they all agree that Gin is a
better game".

gin rummy is a card game where skill (as opposed to chance) is a
predominant factor. That's why when players compete in gin rummy
tournaments or games for cash prizes, they do not "gamble". According
to the statutes of most US states, gambling is defined as: risking
something of value upon the outcome of a contest of chance. See here
how a US court decided in favor of Gin Rummy, ruling it to be a
non-gambling game of skill. Playing gin rummy for money is, therefore,
a "competitive entertainment" rather than "gambling". Skill plays a
predominant role in the majority of hands in Gin Rummy and, especially
over the long run, the more skilled player is bound to prevail and win
more cash prizes!
David Parlett
2006-07-12 15:49:56 UTC
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Post by yotony
Some credit for the game is given to Elwood Baker (also a Bridge tutor)
who later achieved much posthumous fame as a victim of an un explained
murder case (could it have been an irate card partner?).
I have long been under the impression that Baker was the victim of
murder, but when I came to check it recently I couldn't find any
authentic reference to or source of information about it. Do you have
any more details? If it's true, does anyone know any facts about the
case? If not, does anyone know who started the story?
--
David Parlett
For books and games visit http://www.davidparlett.co.uk
yotony
2006-07-12 17:35:49 UTC
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Prior to Elwood Baker, in 1899 there was Gin Poker, the father of Gin
Rummy that was played extensively in saloons and gambling joints in US.
The story holds that Elwood Baker of Knickerbocker Whist Club in New
York city in 1909 was the first to introduce 'rummy' scoring system
that is used in gin rummy game today ( per pbs.org and gamecolony.com )
Elwood Baker is said to have introduced an easy & rational scoring
system for gin thereby making it much easier to play gin for money.
In Scarne's Card Games encyclopedia, the author cites Gin Poker rules
(reprinted from 1899 club rules) which are remarkably similar (except
points and scoring to gin rummy) as follows:
"A standard pack of 52 cards is used. The game is for 2 players. Game
is 100 points. Each player is dealt 10 cards, one to each
alternatively. the twenty-first card is turned face up.Each player can
pick off the top card of the discard pile or take the card of the top
of the stock, then discard a card.
The object of the game is to get sequences of three or more in a suit,
or three or four of a kind. As soon as deadwood (unmatched cards) total
ten or less, the player can call for a showdown, and has to announce
the amount of his deadwood and show his hand, laying the combination
aside. If an opponent has less deadwood than the caller 9the present
game's knocker), he and not the caller gets paid. Not only that, he
gets a 10 point penalty from the caller."

To play card games and board games of skill online, please visit
www.gamecolony.com
Post by David Parlett
Post by yotony
Some credit for the game is given to Elwood Baker (also a Bridge tutor)
who later achieved much posthumous fame as a victim of an un explained
murder case (could it have been an irate card partner?).
I have long been under the impression that Baker was the victim of
murder, but when I came to check it recently I couldn't find any
authentic reference to or source of information about it. Do you have
any more details? If it's true, does anyone know any facts about the
case? If not, does anyone know who started the story?
--
David Parlett
For books and games visit http://www.davidparlett.co.uk
David Parlett
2006-07-12 18:10:03 UTC
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Post by yotony
Post by David Parlett
Post by yotony
Some credit for the game is given to Elwood Baker (also a Bridge tutor)
who later achieved much posthumous fame as a victim of an un explained
murder case (could it have been an irate card partner?).
I have long been under the impression that Baker was the victim of
murder, but when I came to check it recently I couldn't find any
authentic reference to or source of information about it. Do you have
any more details? If it's true, does anyone know any facts about the
case? If not, does anyone know who started the story?
Prior to Elwood Baker, in 1899 there was Gin Poker, the father of Gin
Rummy that was played extensively in saloons and gambling joints in US.
The story holds that Elwood Baker of Knickerbocker Whist Club in New
York city in 1909 was the first to introduce 'rummy' scoring system
that is used in gin rummy game today ( per pbs.org and gamecolony.com )
Elwood Baker is said to have introduced an easy & rational scoring
system for gin thereby making it much easier to play gin for money.
In Scarne's Card Games encyclopedia, the author cites Gin Poker rules
(reprinted from 1899 club rules) which are remarkably similar (except
[Etc]. Well, thanks for those extra details, but I still don't see
anything about a murder.
--
David Parlett
For books and games visit http://www.davidparlett.co.uk
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